dear forum posters -
today i wish to deal primarily with the terms free-will and predestination as put forth in the New Testament, Paul's Letters and writings, and the teachings of what Baptists believe and why.
every human being on the planet has free-will (except for the severally retarded and they are protected as children who have not reached the age of accountability as far as God is concerned). this means that once you have the mental acumen to understand the Roman road to salvation, and it has been presented to you; it will be held against you if you free-will choose to ignore the ONLY WAY OUT of eternal damnation God has given us. remember i said once before, the miracle is not that God permitted one way out for His fallen men, but that He ever allowed any way out for us to receive the just punishment of our sins.
predestination as defined by Paul is not the philosophy that God created a world, and created sinful men, so He could later destroy them all (except for a few chosen ones) but rather Paul was talking about an attribute of God where He is at the same TIME:
existing BEFORE the CREATION of the universe -
at the creation of the universe-
at Calvary (Golgotha) where He had to turn His eyes from His Son because Jesus took the sins of the entire world on His shoulders, thus a perfect God could not look upon that sin-
at the sacking and burning of rome-
at the signing of the declaration of independence -
at my conversion as a child of ten in a small missionary baptist church in pomona, ca-
at this very moment, on TOM's forum-
at the end of the universe -
and existing AFTER the end of the universe-
true, it is very, VERY hard for our small, finite minds to wrap itself around such a concept, but when reason can't fill in the blanks, faith can. but the way i understand it, God knows the past-present-future not because He is some super-fortune teller, but because He exists at all points in what we count as TIME simultaneously. this is how He has predestined us to His eternal service. it is because The Father knows everything already, and nothing comes as a surprise to Him, nor is ANYTHING outside of His influence. this is how Paul meant the use of this word. (like this is the ONLY word that has 'moore' than one clear definition in the world? - many Christian churches today teach a meaning of predestination that i do not agree with.)
as for the matter of the three heavens i already explained that, but in way of a review, in case some one might have been elsewhere:
1) the air
2) space - the final frontier (the universe)
PS: finally have my new glasses, but so far they have only caused me one re-occurring headache. so even though i can't see worth a shukie durn any'moore' figured my mind and my mouth ARE still working, so saw no reason to not return into the fray. however, will carefully read and reread my copy for any spelling errors, but apologize early, in case they are here.
"And as for Tom Baker, well, I'll always be the Doctor,
won't I?" TOM BAKER